TwoToneshuzz
09-20-2011, 01:54 AM
Good morning numerologists!!
This is new land:
My music libray:
Bach complete works for keyboards almost.
Beethovens Symphonies, string Quartets, Sonatas.
Debussy complete piano catalog "almost".
Chopins piano music almost complete.
Scriabin
Prokoffiev
Hindemith
Mozart
Early music anothogies.
Verdi operas.
Wagner operas..
Carmen.
Some world music salsa, american indian, eskimo fight singing, Canadian Lumber jack buffalo bleating choirs
Alot of other stuff.. I will never part with this library. It even needs fleshing out.. The Norton series on Music history has a series of paired books from the middle ages to Modern.. Well written texts with anthologies... Oh things to buy in the music book world even still.
Not to brag or anything but music has been my main interest for a lifetime now, too many years ago I started on this music journey my first music teachers name was Mary Luck she lived on Whyte avenue in Edmonton Alberta .. one piano lesson cost 4 dollars .. Kudos to those that start the ball rolling...
But all this tradition, all this knowledge all these notes.. Can't they somehow get into Numerology?
Import midi files found on the net Yes, na well, is it really that much faster than just grabbing the score on the shelf using the Scores index to find the right spot, opening the score and inputing the notes with
STEP RECORDING A 1,2 ,3 ,4 A 1,2.3, 4,
Well it might seem faster to import or export premade midi files.. But GEEEEZZ...All I want is a little phrase or to make a recognizable quote, in the ambient stream. So , no no no it's not faster to go on the net, find the file open it clip the small phrase and paste it a million time into Cubase or Logic and line it all up.. You can't import into Numerology directly as yet. but you could pipe a midi stream from logic into a sequencer in record mode set to the smallest subdivisions used in the music, it would work..you could also just filter out the shorter values at the source if you don't need the " trills" . Then use my record enable button box in external trigger mode.. needs a little extra module of course but it's easily doable.
Input the phrase into a sequencer in Numerology using Step input, Set it up to play back using CV trigger play, use my Gate, Gates and more Gates trick to make it appear in a mix exactly where you want with a few clicks. Done.
As a relative Newbie to Step Record, I decided to to a little exercise.. Record a Bach two part invention into Numerology using step record, and line it up so it just plays back..
Something that struckk me while doing this is how beautiful plain old notation is compared to any computer interface... sigh.. It's the humaness of it.. the curves the structure in print.. So the actual process of step inputing from score is a learning process, taken in doses it can enrich your music making life.
Back to the Bach exercise, inputing to voices of 28 bars of tightly written 1/16 notes:
I acheived this goal more speedily than I had first imagined.. The pitch bend wheel is great for moving the focus to the right step. The mod wheel adjusts gate length. And you can set the sequencer to record your velocity. All just excellently thought out and implemented. Thanks Jim Coker! A further refinment could be to set up your controllers to adjust note length or divide. two things that could be a way to manage difficult rythmical figures in Baroque music. I think I will always keep a 16 note frame through 4 beat frame though..
Two Stacks, Four mono note sequencers in each, I made a record console, a button box that functioned so that when one sequencer was in record mode, the other 3 were automatically muted and record DISabled. Easy to set up. if you need help just ask.
I did this for two stacks..
For play back of the inputted sequencers I had planned to use the Midi Switch to route the output in clocked modus from each of the sequencers in turn out to the Sound Generator in Round Robin fashion.
Then use presets to move through the 4 bar sections. Each sequencers was one bar long with a Clk Divi of 1/16 notes.. of a 28 bar piece.
I like to use short sequence lengths for two reasons..
I'm kind of a dreamer can easily loose my focus point so short sequences help me to get more structural and keep me with the task at hand.
Working with triggers, remote editors, modulators I'm finding tools to direct modulations and events to just one specific step, this is easier to fathom and setup with short sequences.
Short sequences are easy to follow, clearly readable. Short Sequences == Ease of Use!
The same goes for octave range.. Here an auto octave range shift for step recording would be a boon.. A Numerology sequencer in -48 to +48 is just not workable as a graphic interface solution.the notes are too small..I suppose it's enough that the pitches/intervals names are shown at the bottom of the interval field. But I wonder if there isn't another way of showing the tones when working with the widest range. Perhaps an auto range adjust feature is needed for this kind of Score transcription work..
This is the playback set up. It needs refining.
I have chosen to use my iron clad method for a "mash up" playback where four gates unmute each sequence in turn. The gates are global for both voices..
This works quite well, some adjusting needed here as well for smooth playback, perhaps a little bit of slew on the Gates, so there's a tiny bit of crossfade timewise at the end of each sequences run..
Another method would be to use the CV trigger play modus also sent from the four gates, but they don't need to be on more than just 1 quarter note for each trigger, quick and easy.
This is a very interesting learning experience..
The step record feature is great for getting a short idea into a sequencer.. Midi import slow, Step record for some applications cases Fast..
I think I'll have another cup of my so so coffee..
Getting the notes into Numerology is pretty straight forward, seems like a "small miracle" refining the output with all of Numerologies tools is going to be interesting, My first ideas is how to make a trill uising a Lfo routed to one step set to pitch bend message.. There's a program called Thesys by Suger "bites" that does this, but Numerology is so much better for so many things that getting it to do gestures is a small price to pay for not having to leave the program..
Wade
Anyone got any step record tricks out there?
This is new land:
My music libray:
Bach complete works for keyboards almost.
Beethovens Symphonies, string Quartets, Sonatas.
Debussy complete piano catalog "almost".
Chopins piano music almost complete.
Scriabin
Prokoffiev
Hindemith
Mozart
Early music anothogies.
Verdi operas.
Wagner operas..
Carmen.
Some world music salsa, american indian, eskimo fight singing, Canadian Lumber jack buffalo bleating choirs
Alot of other stuff.. I will never part with this library. It even needs fleshing out.. The Norton series on Music history has a series of paired books from the middle ages to Modern.. Well written texts with anthologies... Oh things to buy in the music book world even still.
Not to brag or anything but music has been my main interest for a lifetime now, too many years ago I started on this music journey my first music teachers name was Mary Luck she lived on Whyte avenue in Edmonton Alberta .. one piano lesson cost 4 dollars .. Kudos to those that start the ball rolling...
But all this tradition, all this knowledge all these notes.. Can't they somehow get into Numerology?
Import midi files found on the net Yes, na well, is it really that much faster than just grabbing the score on the shelf using the Scores index to find the right spot, opening the score and inputing the notes with
STEP RECORDING A 1,2 ,3 ,4 A 1,2.3, 4,
Well it might seem faster to import or export premade midi files.. But GEEEEZZ...All I want is a little phrase or to make a recognizable quote, in the ambient stream. So , no no no it's not faster to go on the net, find the file open it clip the small phrase and paste it a million time into Cubase or Logic and line it all up.. You can't import into Numerology directly as yet. but you could pipe a midi stream from logic into a sequencer in record mode set to the smallest subdivisions used in the music, it would work..you could also just filter out the shorter values at the source if you don't need the " trills" . Then use my record enable button box in external trigger mode.. needs a little extra module of course but it's easily doable.
Input the phrase into a sequencer in Numerology using Step input, Set it up to play back using CV trigger play, use my Gate, Gates and more Gates trick to make it appear in a mix exactly where you want with a few clicks. Done.
As a relative Newbie to Step Record, I decided to to a little exercise.. Record a Bach two part invention into Numerology using step record, and line it up so it just plays back..
Something that struckk me while doing this is how beautiful plain old notation is compared to any computer interface... sigh.. It's the humaness of it.. the curves the structure in print.. So the actual process of step inputing from score is a learning process, taken in doses it can enrich your music making life.
Back to the Bach exercise, inputing to voices of 28 bars of tightly written 1/16 notes:
I acheived this goal more speedily than I had first imagined.. The pitch bend wheel is great for moving the focus to the right step. The mod wheel adjusts gate length. And you can set the sequencer to record your velocity. All just excellently thought out and implemented. Thanks Jim Coker! A further refinment could be to set up your controllers to adjust note length or divide. two things that could be a way to manage difficult rythmical figures in Baroque music. I think I will always keep a 16 note frame through 4 beat frame though..
Two Stacks, Four mono note sequencers in each, I made a record console, a button box that functioned so that when one sequencer was in record mode, the other 3 were automatically muted and record DISabled. Easy to set up. if you need help just ask.
I did this for two stacks..
For play back of the inputted sequencers I had planned to use the Midi Switch to route the output in clocked modus from each of the sequencers in turn out to the Sound Generator in Round Robin fashion.
Then use presets to move through the 4 bar sections. Each sequencers was one bar long with a Clk Divi of 1/16 notes.. of a 28 bar piece.
I like to use short sequence lengths for two reasons..
I'm kind of a dreamer can easily loose my focus point so short sequences help me to get more structural and keep me with the task at hand.
Working with triggers, remote editors, modulators I'm finding tools to direct modulations and events to just one specific step, this is easier to fathom and setup with short sequences.
Short sequences are easy to follow, clearly readable. Short Sequences == Ease of Use!
The same goes for octave range.. Here an auto octave range shift for step recording would be a boon.. A Numerology sequencer in -48 to +48 is just not workable as a graphic interface solution.the notes are too small..I suppose it's enough that the pitches/intervals names are shown at the bottom of the interval field. But I wonder if there isn't another way of showing the tones when working with the widest range. Perhaps an auto range adjust feature is needed for this kind of Score transcription work..
This is the playback set up. It needs refining.
I have chosen to use my iron clad method for a "mash up" playback where four gates unmute each sequence in turn. The gates are global for both voices..
This works quite well, some adjusting needed here as well for smooth playback, perhaps a little bit of slew on the Gates, so there's a tiny bit of crossfade timewise at the end of each sequences run..
Another method would be to use the CV trigger play modus also sent from the four gates, but they don't need to be on more than just 1 quarter note for each trigger, quick and easy.
This is a very interesting learning experience..
The step record feature is great for getting a short idea into a sequencer.. Midi import slow, Step record for some applications cases Fast..
I think I'll have another cup of my so so coffee..
Getting the notes into Numerology is pretty straight forward, seems like a "small miracle" refining the output with all of Numerologies tools is going to be interesting, My first ideas is how to make a trill uising a Lfo routed to one step set to pitch bend message.. There's a program called Thesys by Suger "bites" that does this, but Numerology is so much better for so many things that getting it to do gestures is a small price to pay for not having to leave the program..
Wade
Anyone got any step record tricks out there?