how to make every note in sequence longer without slowing down sequencer itself?

[sonomute]

Hello!

I'm trying to record melodic pattern into mononote. It's quite groovy, so i'm using 32th rate and 128 size of pattern to have big resolution and catch all midi events at right places(if there any other way to keep precise of incoming midi date please let me know, i'll appreciate it), but this way i'm loosing very important aspect, note length...it is just triggering to fast, and i almost don't hear anything...

Yes, i can change release of course, but then it's different sound, and i don't need it to be different...

Is there any workaround? Like to use all those CV sequencers or something?

Yup, piano roll would save me a lot of time in this case... The thing is that i really like to use num instead of live or whatever, but most of the time i'm facing limitations right from the begining, and i'm not sure if they are limitations of my brain or software itself...i bought it because it looked like something that allows you to do anything...

Well, i hope it's just time for me to learn something new ;) Any ideas?

Thank you!

[shamburglar]

you want to post the project so we can take a look at it? I'm not sure exactly what you're asking... 32nd notes are going to trigger fast in a mononote at a high tempo... a discrete sequencer where the intervals/gates/volumes etc... are all able to run at independent rates may be the right direction to pursue...

[sonomute]

what i mean is: if i will connect my midi keyboard to live or whatever and will record some melody without on-record quantization, it will sounds just like i have played it, right? If i'm trying to do the same in numerology, melody will be quantized anyway. So, to keep timing of my melody, i'm adding more steps to sequencer, and making it go faster, or making resolution higher in other words...but, when i'm recording melody in live, it will record also note length, in num, it will record only time where the note begins, but length will be same for every note...and because sequencer is so fast, this length will be very short...

Yes, i need to divide my setup to two devices, one of them will send message when note must begin and note number, and other must set the length of the note...will try to do it now...

[sonomute]

no, i don't get it...gate and note length are the same thing...

[sonomute]

wow, just tried groove function, and it really helps! no need for 32th anymore...:) and learnt little more about music i think...

[jim]

I'm trying to record melodic pattern into mononote. It's quite groovy, so i'm using 32th rate and 128 size of pattern to have big resolution and catch all midi events at right places(if there any other way to keep precise of incoming midi date please let me know, i'll appreciate it), but this way i'm loosing very important aspect, note length...it is just triggering to fast, and i almost don't hear anything...

Yes, i can change release of course, but then it's different sound, and i don't need it to be different...

Is there any workaround? Like to use all those CV sequencers or something?

Yup, piano roll would save me a lot of time in this case... The thing is that i really like to use num instead of live or whatever, but most of the time i'm facing limitations right from the begining, and i'm not sure if they are limitations of my brain or software itself...i bought it because it looked like something that allows you to do anything...

The current record function is pretty simple -- all it tries to do is to set pitch values in the sequence as you play. As you noticed, if you increase the speed of the sequence, the resolution of what is recorded is increased. But, also as you noticed, a critical item is missing, the ability to correctly record the length of a note -- either by tie-ing notes across steps, or by changing the length of a step. It is an interesting problem, but any work on that has to wait a bit longer, as I'm focused on integration right now (more on that soon).

In the meantime, I recommend that you embrace the "abstraction" that this limitation presents, and use it as a creative tool. As you have noticed with the groove steps, often limitations can be a great benefit, as they lead you down new paths.

Also, what might also help is a bit of post-record editing: After recording a pass, go back and tweak the gate sliders for the notes that need to be tied across multiple steps (set their values to max). That should go quite a ways to more closely emulate what you have played.

Cheers,
Jim