musical blender stack

[shamburglar]

Ok so I got this crazy idea... I want to create a series of stacks that I would feed midi files by separate tracks and in turn numerology would completely warp them into new compositions... does anybody know of a simple midi file player that is capable of sending out midi on a channel basis?

[jim]

I don't know of anything offhand, but if I am bugged appropriately, there's a good chance I'll write one myself... ;)

Cheers,
jim

[shamburglar]

I found this player called Rondo thats really cool. Plus it converts old midi files into multi channel ones. I've been having a lot of fun with my music mutator... its like listening to music through the ears of a crazy! Its been really neat for coming up with new melodies. The output is completely unrecognizable from the original song. But errr ummm... a midi player module in numerology would be absolutely insane!!!!! don't taunt!

[jue]

Hello,

what is the advantage of a midi file player against a host were you can also play your files and send them via IAC to Numerology?
When doing something like this I am using the S&H module or the record funktion of the MonoNote.
What are you using?

best
jue

[shamburglar]

I using the keyboard module with the hold button whose on and off state is modulated by a cv sequencer(kind of like a sample and hold)... then the keyboard module feeds matrix synths and mononotes set to record mode... I might try using sample and hold instead... you mind posting a copy of your stack with the S&H module?
also having an integrated midi module could lead to some interesting possibilities if one was able to use other information from the midi files and route them to other functions... such as using velocity or pitchbend information to modulate other stuff... also the ability to easily route different midi chanels from a file within Numerology could prove very powerful... but I understand this is kind of an unconventional use of the program... but then again thats what Numerology lends itself to. I'm just really digging using numerology to mutate existing music and create new music unrecongizable from the original. I think its really interesting to take existing data/music and apply a process to it in order to achieve a new result. Plus it really blurs the lines of IP, If I feed Numerology a midi file of a copyrighted song and it spits out something completely unrecognizable from the original is this sampling still?

ps... Does it seem like Jim is hinting at something here? ;)

[Sjoerd]

Plus it really blurs the lines of IP, If I feed Numerology a midi file of a copyrighted song and it spits out something completely unrecognizable from the original is this sampling still?

No, it doesn't blur the lines of IP at all. Copyright law is in fact very clear on this issue; you would be:
(1) copying copyrighted material, and
(2) modifying copyrighted material.
Both are infringements on the exclusive right of the copyright owner, and would require prior permission (in writing!) in order not to be illegal.

So, mangling something beyond recognition is in fact *twice* as illegal as just plain copying. :p
In fact, mangling infringes not only on the 'economic rights', but also on the 'moral rights' of the author (which apply pretty much universally, except for US copyright law -- the US has a lousy track record when it comes to respecting authors' rights; they tend to strongly prefer to stimulate the publishing industry instead of respecting authors' rights, which was in fact the reason why the US did not adhere to the Berne Convention, and started their own initiatives for international copyright treaties, and have pushed the TRIPs agreement which is part of the WTO).

Of course, chances of getting caught are greatly diminished as well. :D
But that has nothing to do with copyright law at all...

Best regards, your guerilla IP lawyer. ;)