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[jim]

For those of you that are interested, I'll be twittering a bit enroute and while at NAMM. Other than meeting folks and checking out stuff, I'll be using free time here and there to setup a mapping for the Launchpad to the DrumSeq. "Flying Days" are always a good time to explore new features that can be implemented in small, incremental steps.

http://twitter.com/jimAtFive12

Cheers,
Jim

[kodama]

Sweet! Multiple Launch Pads (2 to get 16 notes) sequencing with distinct velocities for each pad color could be nice.

[jim]

It's pretty ridiculous here:

- Four mac laptops sharing a network hub
- One computer w/ Numerology rewired into ProTools
- Midi Clock transmission from that computer to three others via ethernet
- Live w/ the MonoNoteAU on one
- A Numerology 3 beta w/ OSC control over a MonoNote via Touch OSC on my iPhone
- Another Numerology build running a very, very rough Lauchpad control protocol for the DrumSeq -- I wrote it on the flight over.

I'll post picts & video later...

Jim

[jim]

Here's a video showing the Numerology build w/ Launchpad integration:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N31R7qbINI8

Cheers,
Jim

[verstaerker]

Here's a video showing the Numerology build w/ Launchpad integration:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N31R7qbINI8

Cheers,
Jim

cool - glad to see you're working on this

really looking forward for a useable launchpad integration - just a few thoughts about possible features:
up to 64 step patterns by linking vertical rows (8 steps only row1, 16 steps row 1+2 ....) then use buttons on the right to go to different drumnotes (bd, snare,hihat....)

different modes for drums, mono/polysequencer

configurable velocity by using different colors:
green: velocity setting 1
orange: vel. setting 2
red: vel. setting 3

[Sjoerd]

Awesome stuff Jim! Do us one with the OSC beta and iPhone too if you get a chance?

[sbaishya]

Looks great Jim.

I'm really interested to see what you could with for the Launchpad for the other sequencers. I've just watched a video of Novation's Max for Live step sequencer, and the workflow looks really good.

The idea of being able to do that with Numerology's more comprehensive sequencers is really appealing.

[Sjoerd]

Hey, another interesting remote controller: the APC20: http://www.akaipro.com/apc20
Looks like the APC40 now officially is a flop for being too big and expensive. ;)

[kodama]

I really like my APC, maybe more than any other controller (ok tied w X-Station).

It's less than a monome and is great in the studio. I also got a Launchpad, and it will be great for firing clips on the go or for non-ableton applications (N3!), but not as great as a Live studio controller.

[jim]

Just got home from NAMM last night. Later today I'll go through my camera to look for some good picts & more video. The OSC demo is pretty straightforward: I mapped some faders and buttons in TouchOSC to sliders and buttons in the MonoNote.

Based on the feedback & interest, I plan to 'fastrack' support for the Launchpad, though I still have to balance that time with other tasks.

On the APC front, there is a good chance I'll be able to get my hands on a loaner unit at some point. It's a great controller, but the limited-size grid (only 8 x 5) will make it a bit tricky to map it to things other than preset triggers.

Cheers,
Jim

[sbaishya]

Just bought a Launchpad and Live 8! Can't wait to see what you do with it and Numerology.

I have this vision in my head of using the Launchpad to create sequences in Numerology, then loading those sequences into the Numerology Audio Units inside Live, and triggering them as clips from the Launchpad.

[kodama]

The Launchpad is very cool, but I would think OSC would be the control method to get the fast track. TouchOSC on current devices is sweet. It has already been ported to Android (just needs testing), and if the Apple tablet comes out soon running the touch os, then it could be set to run touch osc almost immediately.

[jim]

Just bought a Launchpad and Live 8! Can't wait to see what you do with it and Numerology.

I worked out nearly-complete mappings (documented, not coded) for the DrumSeq, MonoNote, Preset triggering, the Mixer and Navigation last night. Extending those for the PolyNote, ChordSeq, etc. should be easy. You'll be able to do a lot -- However, this first-pass will be limited to 16 step sequences, as that makes the mapping much more usable than one that can accommodate 128 step sequences. When setting up demos, I found that using "EndStep" modulation and random jump to be very good ways to let the sequences breathe.

I have this vision in my head of using the Launchpad to create sequences in Numerology, then loading those sequences into the Numerology Audio Units inside Live, and triggering them as clips from the Launchpad.

I think you should be able to do that, but you will not be able to use the same Launchpad with Numerology and Live at the same time, as when Live gets access, it takes it over completely.

Cheers,
Jim

[jim]

The Launchpad is very cool, but I would think OSC would be the control method to get the fast track. TouchOSC on current devices is sweet. It has already been ported to Android (just needs testing), and if the Apple tablet comes out soon running the touch os, then it could be set to run touch osc almost immediately.

Both will be relevant. Even with a tablet running nice grid-based controller app, having physical buttons is still very nice, and it is hard to beat the price on the Launchpad. I expect we will start to see lots of multi-controller setups, with various combinations of touchscreens, grids and knob&fader setups, each tweaked to do what they do best. That is certainly what I'm planning for N3...

Cheers,
Jim

[kodama]

True, I have both so it's win/win for me! :)

[TwoToneshuzz]

Having been out of the Loop as to computer systems for music for the last 7-8 years I'm quiet delighted at the developments that have occured in the meantime, especially the hands on controller front interesting things are happening, also I've not invested much in any specific platform as yet so it's nice to know that when I'm ready to jump in you've already done the leg work of getting an affordable controller to work with your software...

Excitng news indeed...

Regards

Wade

[ToniSpeck]

I personally would like to see a very HIGH QUALITY dedicated controller for Numerology. Something like a 4 row of 16 push-rotary encoders + 16 buttons for step sequence. Above each row would have screens "novation remote" style for direct feedback. Now, this device would have to be really well integrated with N3Pro so that any module we choose, it would automatically be assigned, kinda like Automap. Each stepturn of the encoder would turn up or down 1 step according with the range (i.e. -12, +12). There is so much that could be done with a configuration like this. maybe CV out to modulars.

In the end it would be the hardware extension of Numerology.

[amsonx]

I personally would like to see a very HIGH QUALITY dedicated controller for Numerology. Something like a 4 row of 16 push-rotary encoders + 16 buttons for step sequence. Above each row would have screens "novation remote" style for direct feedback. Now, this device would have to be really well integrated with N3Pro so that any module we choose, it would automatically be assigned, kinda like Automap. Each stepturn of the encoder would turn up or down 1 step according with the range (i.e. -12, +12). There is so much that could be done with a configuration like this. maybe CV out to modulars.

In the end it would be the hardware extension of Numerology.


may be MidiBox (http://www.uCApps.de/) can be a starting point ?
Its a really flexibile Hardawre platform and is open source.

[ToniSpeck]

Thats really interesting! I am looking into it :)

Still, Numerology is the king for me.

[jim]

My initial focus will be on working out usable, interesting mappings for reasonably priced, flexible controllers. In the end, though, there will be enough options via both MIDI and OSC that you will probably be able to "roll your own" using various hardware options available, such as ardunio-based systems. And, of course, you'll be able to mix-n-match controllers, using each for what it does best.

Cheers,
Jim

[kodama]

So OSC stuff is coming later in N3?

Are you planning CV output to audio at some point (direct modular support)?

[jim]

So OSC stuff is coming later in N3?

Definitely -- OSC learn is already working in the early N3 builds.

Are you planning CV output to audio at some point (direct modular support)?

I hadn't really thought about that. Both Volta and SilentWay cover that pretty well. In particular, Volta supports ramped AU params, so the Numerology CV to Analog CV conversion is quite accurate.

Best,
Jim

[kodama]

Cool, when do you expect the N3 public beta to emerge?

[jim]

Cool, when do you expect the N3 public beta to emerge?

Can't say yet....

Jim

[kodama]

Hmmm I don't think that I Will be excited about the weds announcement until Numerology has osc!

;)

[jim]

It should be very interesting. Good thing I'm a registered iPhone developer... ;)

Cheers,
Jim

[kodama]

Ok Jim, you have 60 days!

:D


(But I guess N2 bugs should be sorted first....)

[jim]

But I guess N2 bugs should be sorted first....)

Correctamundo... I'm splitting my time this week between fixes for N2 and the Launchpad mapping -- the latter of which should be interesting enough to keep you mind off the iPad for a while. ;)

Cheers,
Jim

[MrBiggs]

Jim, you mention about every sequencer for the Launchpad except the matrixseq. Isn't that a natural fit?

I was planning to look away from the Launchpad until I saw this thread. Now it's on the list. Darn it all.

Brian

[jim]

The matrix seq mapping isn't very natural as it needs 12 rows, but
I'll probably do it as well...

I finished the mixer mapping today, beta out soon...

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